Paying blank with paper

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Permalink Reply by Dany - RenaissanceHypnosis.Co.Uk on October 21, 2008 at 7:16pm

Yes there are other ways using misdirection trances, matching and mirroring and anchoring like Derren actually used. If you want to use a technique like you describe why not just have the store keeps be in on the trick magicians do that all the time. With certain combinations of of the techniques I mentioned above you can have the storekeep fully compliant. This was reported as a scam that was going on in Russia where people would ask for the contents of a register and wallets. Paying with paper is a simple variation. You would not even need to actually give anything but it does make it easier. When I was studying such techniques for a book I'm working on I decided to buy a coffee I had a "Townie" $2 coin in Canada, I paid, gave some tip and left with two "Loonies" Canadian $1 coin. The worst that I got was a nice smile and a "have a good day" and if you have to ask I latter paid for a second coffee with a $10 bill and told her the change was off and that I only gave her a $5 bill, that one always works even with minimum distractions its happened to everyone to be given the wrong change cause the cashier is distracted, well those techniques work both ways and that night I proved it to my friends. Its the biggest tip I ever gave for coffee but I won a $20 bet and got plenty to tell here and in my book!

When the cash is short its taken from the tip jar so I in fact caused them to charge me more and I gave a great tip...I needed to do that to not feel so guilty! he he what can I say! Research experiments can be so much fun and to answer your next question, no I will not explain how it was done in the book anymore than I did here!

Permalink Reply by Anthony Jacquin on January 18, 2009 at 11:45am

Yes. I have done this with straight forward hypnosis. I identified a barrow boy who had worked on the market for 60 years. He said he had been hypnotized in the army as a teenager by his Srgent Major. I did a set piece and boshed him in with a handshake. I told him next time he saw me he would not know who I was but would go back in on sleep.

I left and returned an hour later.

It went like this.
'Hi, three pounds of apples please. Three pounds of pears. and 4 Cauliflowers. How much is that.

- 8 pounds -

How much...sleep.

Deeper and deeper etc.

In a moment when I say eyes open you will believe that everything I put into your hand is money. Bottle tops are pound and anything made of paper is a fiver.

Eyes open. Five, 6,7,8.

Bye.'

Not particularly sophisticated. I prefer Derrens routine :)

Anthony
www.anthonyjacquin.com

Permalink Reply by JP Morgan Jr on January 18, 2009 at 1:08pm

Does anyone here believe Derren's routine is possible as presented?

Same question for Russian Scam wallet steal?

No stooges or instant stooges, no pre-show, no dual reality, no cash hidden beneath blank paper, etc...

Permalink Reply by Jake on January 18, 2009 at 1:32pm

I have had something like this happen before without even trying. In a way, I was the distraction. Talking from the start of the transaction, I only paid for half of it. To think about it I actually did this when I was younger to buy alcohol when I was underage. How cool it would be to intentionally do it.

Permalink Reply by Jake on January 18, 2009 at 1:35pm

Sorry all, I'm in California, USA. In case you didn't understand the alcohol reference. Legal age to purchase alcohol is 21.

Permalink Reply by Ankit on January 18, 2009 at 8:28pm

How did you aproach that seller?

Permalink Reply by Anthony Jacquin on January 19, 2009 at 12:33pm

I chat with Paul Brook. He has told me that his version of it is done for real as presented.

Anthony

Permalink Reply by Jesus Gonzalez on February 11, 2009 at 11:35am

First of all I think that Derren's techniques are clever, and he has a pretty good and powerful use of suggestion rapport and confusion.

How can you induce trance by misdirection? I didnt understood that, also, I haven't seen Derren anchoring them.

@Anthony: How you made him forget about what you just did? In light trances people who I hypnotise always renember everything, to tell you truth I never could make anyone forget what I just did. Yesterday I hypnotised my mother and she forgot everything that hapenned, but I didn't understood why, I didn't gave her any PostHypnotic Suggestion, and also I didn't deepned so much.


I did something similar to what you did Jake.

I was with a friend and it was saturday, we were going to buy two bottles of Cacique(alcohol brand).

I was in the queue with my friend and in front of me there was a man who passed a single bottle of Vodka. Then, the woman asked him for his DNI (National Identity Document in spanish :P). Then I thinked "Oh damn!", and I said my friend, who knows that I practise hypnosis, that I was going to try something with the cashier.

Then at the moment that she was going to pass the bottles, I asked her for where the pizzas were. Then she pointed with her finger and said "Just right there", and I mirrored her pointing too and said to her "Oh, right there yes?" (I was staring between her eyes to attract attention) Then I said to my friend but still staring at her eyes, "Oh, I dont have money, I pass, I just pass, I pass of that " (in spanish pass can be like passing of something or someone and can be like pass a creditcard by the creditcard reader). And for my impression she passed both bottles and cashed me normally as nothing strange hapenned, she didnt even asked me for my DNI. Just coincidence or suggestion? I nevermind, I drank both bottles HAHA.

Also I distracted her a little bit.

Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on May 29, 2011 at 8:34pm

I have never thought to try to just pay with paper, but I have done things that are very similar just using suggestions. So, I think it is more than possible.