jesus was a hypnotist

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Comment by Donne on January 30, 2012 at 6:32pm

May want to take  a look at Dolores Cannon's book, 'Jesus and the Essenes', and 'They Walked with Jesus', past life accounts of his life and times. (Havent read, 'Walked....", but the 'Essenes' is good. According to 'The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ', he visited the various mystery schools in Egypt, Persia, India etc and was initiated into them. (Had to escape India after upsetting the Brahmin priests  in speaking out against the caste system, as he mixed with all castes, including the 'untouchables'.)

You are right in his use of metaphor and parable.Simple, but deeply symbolic language that also spoke to the Soul of his listeners. Note: 'The Sower and his Seed', a story of the Creative process of incarnation, evolution and . Created souls go forth into the other realities of life, including earth, some thrive, some fail to develop.

Metaphoric language, as Erickson realized and utilized, speaks directly to the unconscious as symbols are the language of the unconscious.

Jesus, in removing 'demons' from people was also removing attached EB spirits and Dark Force Entities, (DFE).

Comment by Bernard Rapol on January 30, 2012 at 7:41am

Great group, Rick. Stop worrying about that some people might overreact on the subject. As we hypnotists say: the ones who put negative feelings into you are the ones with the problems, not you!  :-).

Anyway: I saw a mention of parabels here in the discussion. I would just like to mention that they remind me of the hypnotic metaphors and it's my idea that Jesus used them just in that manner. Brilliant linguist he was apparently. I sure would have liked to have met some of his teachers!

Comment by Donne on September 9, 2009 at 5:53am

Could I recommend the book: "The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ'. by Levi.
An early channeled book that documents the lost years of Jesus. In these years he travelled to the initiatian centres in Egypt, Greece,Persia, India, Tibet, undergoing an initiation in each centre until he wa able to merge with his Higher Self. (at least for a limited time period). He then synthesised aspects of the religions and philosophies of the East into his teachings when he returned.
Despite its source, it presents a more possible realistic explaination of the lost years and his development into a geat teacher and healer.

Some miracles were due to the increased energy in his aura, (the woman touching his robe and being cured). Other miracles, the loaves and fishes, water into wine, MAY have been transformation of the thought formenergy from the astral plane, being manifested on earth. This is mentioned in Yogansandra's 'Autobiography of a Yogi'.

The Huna books of Max Freedom Long, 'Secret Science of Miracles' etc, give an insight into how the three diferent frequencies of energies of the three selfves work to achieve healings and 'miracles'.

Yes, he was a hypnotist, but more so, an evolved soul in tune with both his lower and Higher Self, using developed abilities and a deep understanding of the principles of energy and spirituality to heal and perform what appeared to be 'miracles'.

Given of course that all this happened so long ago and the sources have been recopied, re hashed, translated and mistranslated, and stories inserted to serve religious and political purposes, even up to the present time its difficult to determine what is truth and what is religious fantasy.
Can we achieve similar healings using hypnosis and an understanding of thought forms and the energy frequencies of the three selves?

Comment by Fable Goodman on May 12, 2009 at 10:43am

I once did a reverse version of turning water into wine.

It was at a week long workshop which I facilitated, called "you can get there from here".

On the final evening, we had a long session where we all went round and round taking turns saying anything we wanted to round off the week.

As a 'Talking stick' I passed round a bottle of 'Terra mater' Red wine. each person who held the bottle took a sip as they spoke, and the rest of the group listened with as much respect as they could muster.

Every time the bottle came back to me, I topped it up with water, and the next person who had a sip, could not tell the difference, as it was only slightly diluted, and they still had the taste in their mouth from the last round.

After it had been round a few times it was more water than wine, but held the enrgy of the group, and always tasted the same.

By the end of the evening (about three hours) it was almost pure water, (or at least in some people's eyes a homeopathic dilution of the original ) and yet it still tasted just as sweet.

The next morning, before leaving, I offered a drink from the bottle to each participant, and they will swear blind, that it still tasted the same.

Now part of the implicit metaphor in this act, was to ensure that the group members undo any unconscious idea that I was a mesiah.. Not sure who got that. But we all enjoyed the joke.

Now, some people say, that in the days of Jesus, a wedding could take several weeks... Quite suficient time for anyone who knows how, to turn water into wine.

Love and hugs,

Fable (not the messiah... just a very naughty boy)

Comment by no0ne on May 12, 2009 at 9:40am

Interesting questions... I think some people are more naturally attune to knowing how to manipulate our percepions of reality. Perhaps this knowledge is stored, at some level, within all of us.

Comment by Jesus Gonzalez on March 19, 2009 at 12:58pm

But my great question is.... Where did Jesus learn all this stuff? Himself???

Did God give him the "power" / the knowledge?

I'll be buying your next book, it seems to be so interesting.

Comment by dan jones on March 19, 2009 at 12:22pm

Jesus truly was a master hypnotist. Not only had he mastered hypnotic language patterns so that he could influence people but he also mastered the tricks stage hypnotists use to do rapid hypnotic inductions on those he met.

This tradition of using rapid hypnotic inductions has continued to this day being used wonderfully by many successful and effective preachers and spiritual healers the world over; but none of them compare to the level of mastery attained by Jesus. I think it is always good to hear of someone using hypnosis for the good of people.

For my latest book I am analysing The Sermon on the Mount to show the various hypnotic techniques being used, it is very skillful, artful and powerful techniques being used. I am also writing an analyses of the descriptions of the miracles. I will post some of this here once it is done if people are interested?

Comment by Jesus Gonzalez on March 19, 2009 at 11:38am

I believe that Jesus was a hypnotist.

I think that for the water to wine "trick"/miracle, he used the color change "technique".

What do you think?

Comment by pauline owl on February 15, 2009 at 1:46am

hi steve did you ask Art Long about Egypt hes the expert on all that time amazing knowledge on all subjects

Comment by Steve Lovold on January 23, 2009 at 11:14am

Is anyone here familiar with the history of Imhotep the 4th, or Achknaten, or 18th century b.c. Egypt ???

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