Helping those who are almost ready.

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Permalink Reply by tc_Burt on August 4, 2010 at 6:48am

Walt, maybe you should transfer this to the parts therapy group, seems the client is conflicted

Permalink Reply by Ron Franks on August 4, 2010 at 7:36am

Personally, I only work with people who have a conscious desire for whatever experience s/he is seeking my assistance with. However, I am following this thread in an openess to the idea that perhaps there is some fun to be had in doing hypnosis with people who do not have such a desire and if I see that there is I'm going to be all over that.

Permalink Reply by Walt on August 4, 2010 at 8:20am

Conflicted for sure.

tc_Burt said:

Walt, maybe you should transfer this to the parts therapy group, seems the client is conflicted

Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on August 4, 2010 at 8:36am

Why not reframe the whole attitude?

Tell him he's already in a trance that serves his overweight, and he first needs to get fully conscious, before being able to get into an other trance, that serves him.
Then switch subjects, and start telling him how consciousness works, get him in a yes-set, seed the idea of being in hypnosis, and after that talk, just let him go "in downtime", and when you see the small changes; Do your induction!

It has never failed me yet.

Permalink Reply by Daniel Wallace on August 4, 2010 at 9:50am

Antoine, we need a "like" button, similar to Facebook. I'd hit "like" repeatedly for that idea. :)

Permalink Reply by Ron Franks on August 4, 2010 at 10:06am

Do you Dan, consider...

Antoine's idea to be a demonstration of the mastery Michael refers to in Walt's initiating post?

Daniel Wallace said:

Antoine, we need a "like" button, similar to Facebook. I'd hit "like" repeatedly for that idea. :)

Permalink Reply by Jan Krüger on August 4, 2010 at 10:14am

Bandler would probably suggest what he calls "going above threshold": basically you take all the bad things about smoking and experience them all together and blow them completely out of proportion. You just keep going with that and keep intensifying it until something gives (and never stop before that happens). After that, he says, implementing the change is a piece of cake.

Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on August 4, 2010 at 10:53am

To be honest, I make up the answers, as I go along.
The first thing I've learned, is to "think outside the box", because what's in it, has been tried, and tried again, but didn't amount to the correct answers, so maybe stepping out of context, and creating a new healthier context might do it.
I have no idea WHY my clients go into hypnosis, they just do, because I want them to, nothing more nothing less.
It's not what I say, or what technique I use, I just let them jump from one foot to an other, and eventually they just fall out of balance, and they start leaning on me, and my ideas.
It's quite simple if you think about it.

Permalink Reply by Ron Franks on August 4, 2010 at 12:02pm

Antoine,

I find experiencing honesty in another's expression a refreshing and delightful experience so thanks for doin that. And yes, I appreciate how and why such an approach delivers you the results you intend - how could they do otherwise, when they are borne of of such clear intent, trust and centeredness.

Permalink Reply by Pete & Lorraine on August 5, 2010 at 11:10am

I have had a couple of clients this year who have strugled going into trance. One an older woman did'nt know how to feel relaxed. I got her to relax her arm so it was floppy then got her to move the feeling across her shoulder to the other arm and got that floppy.Then I simply said imagine if your whole body felt like that, out like a light. I then went on to teach her self hypnosis and she stopped taking sleeping tablets. Another client didn't like letting go of control. I used this as an induction saying the more she tries to resist the deeper she goes, remaining in control, only her control is passed over to another part of her mind, so she is still in control, and the more control she had the deeper etc. We did some great work in deep trance to let her weight go, however she still held on to the weight and have recently done parts therapy with her, but now I can use quick inductions with her as well, much easier to take in to trance.
It may be an idea to work from the emotions ie get him to focus on his resistance, and go to where that resisitance comes from,or whats underneath the resisitance, then whats beneath that emotion slowly feeding it round to being in trance.

Couple of ideas

Permalink Reply by docregal.com on August 6, 2010 at 7:57am

Helping those who are not quite ready for change is indeed another type of work. You can put on the hat called motivational coach for that.