Help with a phobis

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Permalink Reply by Don Reno on September 18, 2008 at 5:09pm

Hello Jack,
I have heard it said that nobody gets out of childhood without at least a few cuts and bruises.

That is really, really true when looking at the mental side of things. Young children don't have the mental or emotional capacity to understand everything that goes on around them. (Most adults don't always understand, either.) So things happen or are said around a child that he understands incorrectly. Pile a few of these events on top of each other and the subconscious response is unpredictable, but it is always working to protect the person.

The strange fears that people develop are usually related to something that happened when they were younger. There is an event that starts it, but does not result in the fear right away. There are often several more events over the years. The subconscious keeps processing the events and finally comes up with the protection device....the fear of spiders (or heights, or airplanes, or the number 13, etc.)

If you can enable that person to use their subconscious to go back to that first event (the Initial Sensitizing Event or ISE), they can usually then see or even experience that event with adult understanding. That is the first step in resolving the fear.

Sometimes they have to go back to several events (Subsequent Sensitizing Events or SSE) and understand with the adult's insight.

When the (metaphorical) child inside the person can understand the events and feel safe, the fear can go away.

So Jerry's advice is "Regress to cause and fix it."

Don Reno

Permalink Reply by Dave Thomson on September 25, 2008 at 1:33pm

Dear Jack,
I agree with Don. The easiest and most complete way I know of to deal with fears or phobias is to regress the individual to the cause. First get the patient into deep somnambulism or Ultra Height if you are trained in that. Have the person bring up the fear that they are dealing with and once they have it (usually I will intensify it somewhat), have them regress to the first time, first scene or first situation that has everything to do with that feeling.
Now as Don said, sometimes you will land on an SSE (subsequent sensitizing event). This is something that intensified this feeling over the years but was not the first time. It is important that you get to the first time. So an easy way to check for this, is once you have the person back at this supposed first time, then take them back even further (usually a few days) and ask them if they can still feel the fear or is this fear something new to them. Once you have regressed them to the point that they don't feel the fear, then the time you just left will be the ISE or INITIAL sensitizing event. Once the fear is exposed to the conscious side of the mind, it will usually disappear but there are a couple of good ways to make sure you are successful.
1. Is to bring the adult individual back to this first time occurance. Have the adult talk to the child and tell them what ever it is they need to hear from the adult to help them loose their fear. Then take them forward to the next SSE and do the same thing. Do this for four or five SSE's.
2. What I have found to be the best is to make sure you are at the ISE, bring back the adult or whoever they think can best help them find the information they need to be able to deal with this and work with them. Once you have overcome the ISE, then use a technique called Time Line Therapy. Here, you have the individual go forward in time from the ISE to each subsequent SSE and have the adult or individual that helped them with the ISE to then help them with each SSE. Give them the suggestion to do this with each one and if there is one that they cannot resolve, then stop there, notify you and you will help them through it. What this does is not only remove the ISE that started the whole thing but quickly resolves all of the SSE's that intensified this thing into a intense fear or phobia.
There are other ways but I have found this one to work almost every time. It is very important that you find the ISE. If you don't, then the symptom may reapear later or may surface later as a different fear or phobia.
Good luck, hope this helps. After you have done a couple of these it becomes almost too easy....
Regards,
Dave Thomson

Permalink Reply by Morthen M S Jensen on September 28, 2009 at 5:38am

You should try Regression, and stop using "blinking light brain wave machine" what ever that is, it has nothing to do with hypnosis.

Permalink Reply by Bill Mogolov on May 24, 2010 at 4:39pm

Not trying to be a smart___, but Omni people know alot of "better ways" to do things. Our training takes care of that. I highly recommend it.

Permalink Reply by Vana Papagianni on June 22, 2011 at 3:16pm

I don't know about the Omni way but I know for a fact that the NLP fast phobia cure works perfectly well (I first ask them which place they find safe, I recreate it and then use the fast forward and rewind video buttons of three instances they find terrifying- i call them something else if they don't like the word spider for example i call it first event at your mums house).  I've tried it with a girl that couldn't go to her garden for 15 years, it took me an hour and she was out in my garden right next to lots of spiders in my plants.

Permalink Reply by Garrett Buttel on August 21, 2011 at 1:10pm

NLP techniques certainly distract from and desensitize symptoms.  I wonder if anyone has done a study to see what percentage of those helped experience permanent change.

Vana Papagianni said:

I don't know about the Omni way but I know for a fact that the NLP fast phobia cure works perfectly well (I first ask them which place they find safe, I recreate it and then use the fast forward and rewind video buttons of three instances they find terrifying- i call them something else if they don't like the word spider for example i call it first event at your mums house).  I've tried it with a girl that couldn't go to her garden for 15 years, it took me an hour and she was out in my garden right next to lots of spiders in my plants.