Smoking Cessation

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Permalink Reply by AJ on June 21, 2010 at 6:30am

IMO, motivation is essential for compliance. If any part of individual is not motivated to participate, then an inspirational part of the individual needs to be called forth that can compensate for the disparaging one.

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on June 21, 2010 at 6:32am

Hypnosis goes very well with other natural healing methods to support the process
I personally when want to help any kind of addiction use a Chiense formula called "Ease plus" from the American company" health concern" that come down the side effect of any weaning [physical and emotional]
I used it many time with high results
good luck
Yosef
http://www.vitalbee.com/health-concerns-ease-plus-bupleurum-and-dra...
And no I don't own the company and I'm not a sells man lol

Permalink Reply by AJ on June 21, 2010 at 6:36am

Leshern, when we have a natural way to help others, it seems counterproductive to suggest a man-made product. "High" results is probably an excellent analogy.

Permalink Reply by Anthony Jacquin on June 21, 2010 at 7:07am

Accept it has a positive intention and ensure it is met with an alternative behaviour. Ensure that the creative process is not a conscious process.

Anthony

Permalink Reply by Suzan Iscil on June 21, 2010 at 7:19am

Have you called out the higher self part?

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on June 21, 2010 at 7:33am

This Chinese med. Is not a mental pill that suppress the mental system
The opposite it relax the soul by strengthen the liver and balance the heart energy
So it is not a mad man med. It’s a healthy and harmony pill
Any way in the chains eye
I do it almost 20 years and I wouldn't recommend it if I haven’t had the experience
I care about results and if my client can use any support to get what he desire I will give it because my main target is not to be hypnotist just to help him to be healthy
Any way it was only friendly recommendation nothing more the that
With respect
Yosef



Doc Regal said:

Leshern, when we have a natural way to help others, it seems counterproductive to suggest a man-made product. "High" results is probably an excellent analogy.

Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 21, 2010 at 8:00am

It sounds to me like the client doesn't really want to be a non-smoker. It is the desire of the client that will make them the non-smoker, we just help them achieve that goal. If they don't want to stop, its not going to happen. We don't control free will. If we did, we would start with the bank accounts.

John

Permalink Reply by Suzan Iscil on June 21, 2010 at 8:10am

I'm sure you know (and do) this already but when things get tricky...

Be patient, allow the parts to do the speaking and negotiating and be careful not to try to direct the outcome and remember rapport and understanding when speaking with or summarizing what the conflicting part is saying or asking.

I have had parts cuss at each other and degrade each other and with patience and time, they come to an agreement. I try not to call out other parts unless absolutely necessary.

Permalink Reply by GAIL GUEVARA on June 22, 2010 at 5:14pm

Hello Leshem ~

I passed the website you referred to my friend who is a nutritional health specialist and metabolic typing master and her comment was as follows:

"I don't know what to say but I wouldn't be giving my clients any of these products unless I know their specific body. This hypnotherapist is taking a risk here."

I, too, am in the health and fitness field and by experience every bodies systems and histories are especially unique. We are never allowed to give perscriptions to our clients because it is out of our scope of what we do.

Food for thought.

Leshem Yosef said:

Hypnosis goes very well with other natural healing methods to support the process
I personally when want to help any kind of addiction use a Chiense formula called "Ease plus" from the American company" health concern" that come down the side effect of any weaning [physical and emotional]
I used it many time with high results
good luck
Yosef
http://www.vitalbee.com/health-concerns-ease-plus-bupleurum-and-dra...
And no I don't own the company and I'm not a sells man lol

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on June 22, 2010 at 9:19pm

Dear Gail
I can't be responsible to here reply on my recommend and my experience with Chinese formulas is big [I got my Chinese diploma in 1993] and I work full time clinic for the last 20 years
Your friend probably meant good but she didn't show any understanding in this formula and she even maybe know nothing on the Chinese formulas subject as she react with high world but low knowledge on the subject
To just say "I wouldn't be giving my clients any of these products unless I know their specific body" it is my way too but not in this case
This is a general formula and very gentle and we use it for any addiction so many times as a first aid not as a chronic treatment
So again this is hypno group and I didn’t meant to make a discussion about herbals
And even it’s a little offending to be judge by some nutrition women that I don’t now and have no competition with here and maybe she could learn to respect others profession I will move on
With respect
Yosef




GAIL GUEVARA said:

Hello Leshem ~

I passed the website you referred to my friend who is a nutritional health specialist and metabolic typing master and her comment was as follows:

"I don't know what to say but I wouldn't be giving my clients any of these products unless I know their specific body. This hypnotherapist is taking a risk here."

I, too, am in the health and fitness field and by experience every bodies systems and histories are especially unique. We are never allowed to give perscriptions to our clients because it is out of our scope of what we do.

Food for thought.

Leshem Yosef said:

Hypnosis goes very well with other natural healing methods to support the process
I personally when want to help any kind of addiction use a Chiense formula called "Ease plus" from the American company" health concern" that come down the side effect of any weaning [physical and emotional]
I used it many time with high results
good luck
Yosef
http://www.vitalbee.com/health-concerns-ease-plus-bupleurum-and-dra...
And no I don't own the company and I'm not a sells man lol

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on June 22, 2010 at 10:26pm

This subject of deep individual treatments and first aid is part of hypnosis too
It's not black and white and the border line is gentle and artistic
Some time when need you do fast phobia cure and after you can create a deep process of changing
Some time fast phobia is to flat and methods like part therapy and regression are doing the job
The wisdom is to know when and what is the best strategy to act on
All method have there acute ways and the chronic ways you just need to know how to use it wisely
And only time and experience can make us be pro and good at what we do
with respect
Yosef

Permalink Reply by Suzan Iscil on June 23, 2010 at 1:48am

Yosef,

I appreciate how gentle and respectful you are in your responses. I was already thinking that this forum is difficult because we do not know each other's backgrounds, experience etc. We are all here to learn and to help each other and I would assume that no one has bad intention.

It's also difficult to respond to a posting without knowing the original poster's background. Our friend who posted this question about the rather agressive smoking part may have been facilitating Parts Therapy for many years and hit a particularly challenging case or may be right out of class or may have read Roy's book with no classroom experience.
I would love to speak to the poster in person to see what actually transpired when the parts negotiated and where things broke down as far as the negotiations. We don't learn from the easy clients whose parts agree naturally; we learn from the difficult clients who present us with detours or may lead us into pitfalls.

I am grateful for this forum as I think that Parts Therapy done correctly is a valuable tool and I am grateful for eveyone who participates. We never know when we'll be at a conference and actually meet each other in person :)

Thank you Yosef for your thoughtfulness.


Leshem Yosef said:

This subject of deep individual treatments and first aid is part of hypnosis too
It's not black and white and the border line is gentle and artistic
Some time when need you do fast phobia cure and after you can create a deep process of changing
Some time fast phobia is to flat and methods like part therapy and regression are doing the job
The wisdom is to know when and what is the best strategy to act on
All method have there acute ways and the chronic ways you just need to know how to use it wisely
And only time and experience can make us be pro and good at what we do
with respect
Yosef

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