Stop Smoking ideas for great Successful scripts

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Permalink Reply by Ron Thompson on November 13, 2010 at 7:42pm

I like ti use a release like going into a garden area or a path and sitting on a bench . Telling the client there is a basket on one side with a string on the handle . Have them open the pack and throw one smok eaway at a time . At the same time telling them they are letting go of needs, desires , unwanted negative habits, negative feelings etc,,
When finished raise the finger.... then beside them on the other side a red ballon . Have them blow it up ,, again letting go off the bad air negative things , cleaning out the lunges ETC. then attach the ballon to the basket andlet it go . as it go's up change the feelins to good and feeling betther and wieght off the shoulders etc.


Hope this helps .
RT

Permalink Reply by Jane Barter on November 13, 2010 at 10:07pm

Thanks Ron for that, great creative ideas. I like the letting go idea on the right and left, with cigarettes and with the body.
being involved.

Blessings

Jane


Ron Thompson said:

I like ti use a release like going into a garden area or a path and sitting on a bench . Telling the client there is a basket on one side with a string on the handle . Have them open the pack and throw one smok eaway at a time . At the same time telling them they are letting go of needs, desires , unwanted negative habits, negative feelings etc,,
When finished raise the finger.... then beside them on the other side a red ballon . Have them blow it up ,, again letting go off the bad air negative things , cleaning out the lunges ETC. then attach the ballon to the basket andlet it go . as it go's up change the feelins to good and feeling betther and wieght off the shoulders etc.


Hope this helps .
RT

Permalink Reply by Candan Esin on November 14, 2010 at 12:29am

I use Cal Banyan's five scripts in succesive five sessions, with a success rate of 85%in man and 65-70% in women. Those scripts were once published in the web by Mr. Banyan but now it is nowhere. So I can not share them with you here, probably it is copyrighted.
However there is one topic interests me during the sessions. The most effective scriept deals with the "stubbornness" of the client on "dedication to stop smoking". Their perseverance to stop smoking is repeated several times throughout the script. As there is always a reaction-formation and passive aggression inside all of us; this suggestion probably help their 'internal child' take the lead and convince client to stop smoking. The stubborn inner child who fixates on smoking, now probably 'stubbornly fixates to stop smoking'. There is also a related video on Youtube published by Richard Nongard and there you may see the inner child is called on duty again.
The strange part I faced in smoking cessation program; if I tell client to stop smoking in the first session, they anyhow try or continue smoking several hours later. So I decided to tell them they can freely smoke until the third session and then they will stop. This help them to covince their mind for a due date. They also trust themselves that they are capabel to stop. Because they usually lower the consumed amount during the first two sessions. In third session, after hypnosis session, at the door during good-bye, I tell them it is the time now. Tell them two or three times; it is the time and ask to refrain from smoking and stop it. Then wave good-bye.
The fourth and fifth sessions are one week apart. Usually I do not collect money in these sessions if they could stop smoking. These are usually my control and concrete sessions. Otherwise I tell them I have to charge as they did not stop, and also state that I would have not charge if they have stopped by self decision and conscience.
Regards
Candan Esin MD
Istanbul/Turkey

Permalink Reply by Suzan Iscil on November 14, 2010 at 4:53am

Not a script, but I went to a workshop yesterday where the presenter said to use the arm drop technique for suggestions as well as deepening. For example, "When I drop your arm, you'll go 10 x's deeper." and then..."When I drop your arm, you release any and all desire for cigarettes."

Permalink Reply by Rick Andrews on November 14, 2010 at 5:24am

if you go to cal banyans training web site he has a free script on the high and low road i have recently started using it

Permalink Reply by Jeff on November 14, 2010 at 5:40am

Jane:
This is my forte, I do smoking almost daily.
Here is my outline, I do not use a script, I use an outline based on an interview.
Session 1, intake with NLP. Gather 3-5 fears, 3-5 times smoking got in the way (like rushing out of a hospital to smoke), gather 5 negative feelings felt in smoking and 5 positive feelings gained from smoking, also gather something they find disgusting. Gather their own phrases along the way. As you are going along, you NLP them with incorrect tenses and association, dissociation. Like "you had a terrible problem, wasn't it" and "as a smoker you are free now from smoking every night for a few hours, so you can be free now, already when you need to aren’t you happy to be free NOW, in the future when you look back and see yourself today, now and you realize you have already STOP NOW, what will you feel like, knowing you just STOPPED, will you fell happy or energized?". Past, and future tensing seem to set the subconscious on fire and I have had two clients come back as non smokers before session 2!
I have a booklet for them with the basics of handling any cessation challenges and a contract to themselves, that says they are committed to being free. All the materials are positive, they don't have to, they get to, it all emphasizes freedom and breaking the chains of slavery. It also discusses their addiction, I don't emphasis it in discussion, but every person has commented on the realization that they are an addict. I set up an appointment for 1 week later and send them home with the homework of their contract and replacing their cigarettes with the worst brand they have ever tasted from that moment on.
Session 2, At this session I give them a set of beads, with 21 beads, representing the 21 days of healing and mention that every bead will become a realization about being smoke free. I tell them to act the same way they d now, if they go out at 10am and smoke, they go out at 10am and do one breathing exercise for each bead. This replaces the physical manifestation of smoking and I reinforce it in the hypnosis: This session works on the divided path imagery, get them into hypnosis in your way, I use progressive relaxation, because it is the replacement for their smoking stress release habit. I teach them belly breathing as a beginning of the hypnosis and attach that to the beads in future pacing. They are first guided down the dark path, going into the dark scary foreboding path to the left one step is 6 months in the future, remind them of the negatives they fed you in session 1, see the wrinkles, stuff like that. Step 2 is 1 year, show them their smoking friends, using them as an excuse to continue and more fears realized and the 3rd step is 5 years, have them experience the fruition of their fears, death disease and loss. From their do a visual squash with the pack of cigarettes in their left hand and the disgusting thing they told you about in the right. Now have them step back the 3 steps and experience a wall growing across the path, make it a combination of unpleasant VAK sensations and have them wipe the squash leftovers on it. Now, go up the “right” path, the sunny, happy path and follow the same process for the positive, they are feeling “what ever is the opposite of their fears”, they are discovering wonderful new ways to manage “whatever they used cigarettes for” and at 5 years, have them look back and do a temporal scramble, using phrases like “it was a terrible problem you had long age wasn’t it” and You want to change haven’t you” again, scrambling tenses and timelining the experience. Then bring them back to their first cigarette and have them give the beginning smoker all the experiences and knowledge they have and all the memories of the left path future pace. They will decide right then to stop, bring that decision to now and say “it seems like a dream that you ever smoked, I wonder if you decided then to be a non smoker now, forever, if it means you were from that point on, I like to wonder, I think it’s wonderful, don’t you think it is wonderful always have been free? From this point I remind them of the beads, plant a post hypnotic to use them often and to listen to the audio I provide every day for the next week and bring them out.
All the rest of the sessions are dealing with unconscious responses to stopping. I have had people who masked their panic attacks with smoking and dealt with the death of children, it’s all freeform from there.
My 8 month success ratio is 100% since I adopted this and the $300 regardless of visits policy. My average client visits 3 times, I have one 7 timer and a few 1 and 2 visit clients, so it works out as a wash and the referrals are great, because everyone thinks they are a tough smoking case.
Hope this helps, PM me if you need anything
Jeff

Permalink Reply by Jane Barter on November 14, 2010 at 9:35pm

Thank you Candan for taking the time to share your experience and insights. I like the ideas about the dedicated inner child! as we well know the determined inner child always serves and protects so might as well get it on board with the conscious choices for health.

Blessings
Jane



Candan Esin said:

I use Cal Banyan's five scripts in succesive five sessions, with a success rate of 85%in man and 65-70% in women. Those scripts were once published in the web by Mr. Banyan but now it is nowhere. So I can not share them with you here, probably it is copyrighted.
However there is one topic interests me during the sessions. The most effective scriept deals with the "stubbornness" of the client on "dedication to stop smoking". Their perseverance to stop smoking is repeated several times throughout the script. As there is always a reaction-formation and passive aggression inside all of us; this suggestion probably help their 'internal child' take the lead and convince client to stop smoking. The stubborn inner child who fixates on smoking, now probably 'stubbornly fixates to stop smoking'. There is also a related video on Youtube published by Richard Nongard and there you may see the inner child is called on duty again.
The strange part I faced in smoking cessation program; if I tell client to stop smoking in the first session, they anyhow try or continue smoking several hours later. So I decided to tell them they can freely smoke until the third session and then they will stop. This help them to covince their mind for a due date. They also trust themselves that they are capabel to stop. Because they usually lower the consumed amount during the first two sessions. In third session, after hypnosis session, at the door during good-bye, I tell them it is the time now. Tell them two or three times; it is the time and ask to refrain from smoking and stop it. Then wave good-bye.
The fourth and fifth sessions are one week apart. Usually I do not collect money in these sessions if they could stop smoking. These are usually my control and concrete sessions. Otherwise I tell them I have to charge as they did not stop, and also state that I would have not charge if they have stopped by self decision and conscience.
Regards
Candan Esin MD
Istanbul/Turkey

Permalink Reply by Jane Barter on November 14, 2010 at 9:46pm

Hi Jeff, thanks greatly for sharing so much of your valuable expert advice and taking the time to write all this! I havn't done a lot of NLP, however I can appreciate and recognize the ideas here and I like your explanation of the incorrect tenses, association, dissociation, does this break up and confuse the mind word associations?
I really like the 21 beads idea ! how brilliant for various reasons!
and I also really like that you customize the programs so personally for each client with their specific fears and phrases, language...etc... that is how I like to work with my clients as well!
This helps, Thanks
Jane


Jeff said:

Jane:
This is my forte, I do smoking almost daily.
Here is my outline, I do not use a script, I use an outline based on an interview.
Session 1, intake with NLP. Gather 3-5 fears, 3-5 times smoking got in the way (like rushing out of a hospital to smoke), gather 5 negative feelings felt in smoking and 5 positive feelings gained from smoking, also gather something they find disgusting. Gather their own phrases along the way. As you are going along, you NLP them with incorrect tenses and association, dissociation. Like "you had a terrible problem, wasn't it" and "as a smoker you are free now from smoking every night for a few hours, so you can be free now, already when you need to aren’t you happy to be free NOW, in the future when you look back and see yourself today, now and you realize you have already STOP NOW, what will you feel like, knowing you just STOPPED, will you fell happy or energized?". Past, and future tensing seem to set the subconscious on fire and I have had two clients come back as non smokers before session 2!
I have a booklet for them with the basics of handling any cessation challenges and a contract to themselves, that says they are committed to being free. All the materials are positive, they don't have to, they get to, it all emphasizes freedom and breaking the chains of slavery. It also discusses their addiction, I don't emphasis it in discussion, but every person has commented on the realization that they are an addict. I set up an appointment for 1 week later and send them home with the homework of their contract and replacing their cigarettes with the worst brand they have ever tasted from that moment on.
Session 2, At this session I give them a set of beads, with 21 beads, representing the 21 days of healing and mention that every bead will become a realization about being smoke free. I tell them to act the same way they d now, if they go out at 10am and smoke, they go out at 10am and do one breathing exercise for each bead. This replaces the physical manifestation of smoking and I reinforce it in the hypnosis: This session works on the divided path imagery, get them into hypnosis in your way, I use progressive relaxation, because it is the replacement for their smoking stress release habit. I teach them belly breathing as a beginning of the hypnosis and attach that to the beads in future pacing. They are first guided down the dark path, going into the dark scary foreboding path to the left one step is 6 months in the future, remind them of the negatives they fed you in session 1, see the wrinkles, stuff like that. Step 2 is 1 year, show them their smoking friends, using them as an excuse to continue and more fears realized and the 3rd step is 5 years, have them experience the fruition of their fears, death disease and loss. From their do a visual squash with the pack of cigarettes in their left hand and the disgusting thing they told you about in the right. Now have them step back the 3 steps and experience a wall growing across the path, make it a combination of unpleasant VAK sensations and have them wipe the squash leftovers on it. Now, go up the “right” path, the sunny, happy path and follow the same process for the positive, they are feeling “what ever is the opposite of their fears”, they are discovering wonderful new ways to manage “whatever they used cigarettes for” and at 5 years, have them look back and do a temporal scramble, using phrases like “it was a terrible problem you had long age wasn’t it” and You want to change haven’t you” again, scrambling tenses and timelining the experience. Then bring them back to their first cigarette and have them give the beginning smoker all the experiences and knowledge they have and all the memories of the left path future pace. They will decide right then to stop, bring that decision to now and say “it seems like a dream that you ever smoked, I wonder if you decided then to be a non smoker now, forever, if it means you were from that point on, I like to wonder, I think it’s wonderful, don’t you think it is wonderful always have been free? From this point I remind them of the beads, plant a post hypnotic to use them often and to listen to the audio I provide every day for the next week and bring them out.
All the rest of the sessions are dealing with unconscious responses to stopping. I have had people who masked their panic attacks with smoking and dealt with the death of children, it’s all freeform from there.
My 8 month success ratio is 100% since I adopted this and the $300 regardless of visits policy. My average client visits 3 times, I have one 7 timer and a few 1 and 2 visit clients, so it works out as a wash and the referrals are great, because everyone thinks they are a tough smoking case.
Hope this helps, PM me if you need anything
Jeff

Permalink Reply by Jane Barter on November 14, 2010 at 9:48pm

I checked this out , thanks I like it

Jane



Rick the sleepmaster Andrews said:

if you go to cal banyans training web site he has a free script on the high and low road i have recently started using it

Permalink Reply by Jeff on November 18, 2010 at 5:23pm

Sorry I took so long to respond, I got distracted, someone was blowing bubbles or something, anyway...
confusion is part of it, dual meaning words work great. The key to the association dissociation is to bring them into an associated negative state and drive them to a dissociated positive state. You want to be away from associated pain and are driven toward dissociated pleasure. Glad to help, keep on making smoke free clients for cash!


Jane Barter said:

Hi Jeff, thanks greatly for sharing so much of your valuable expert advice and taking the time to write all this! I havn't done a lot of NLP, however I can appreciate and recognize the ideas here and I like your explanation of the incorrect tenses, association, dissociation, does this break up and confuse the mind word associations?
I really like the 21 beads idea ! how brilliant for various reasons!
and I also really like that you customize the programs so personally for each client with their specific fears and phrases, language...etc... that is how I like to work with my clients as well!
This helps, Thanks
Jane


Jeff said:

Jane:
This is my forte, I do smoking almost daily.
Here is my outline, I do not use a script, I use an outline based on an interview.
Session 1, intake with NLP. Gather 3-5 fears, 3-5 times smoking got in the way (like rushing out of a hospital to smoke), gather 5 negative feelings felt in smoking and 5 positive feelings gained from smoking, also gather something they find disgusting. Gather their own phrases along the way. As you are going along, you NLP them with incorrect tenses and association, dissociation. Like "you had a terrible problem, wasn't it" and "as a smoker you are free now from smoking every night for a few hours, so you can be free now, already when you need to aren’t you happy to be free NOW, in the future when you look back and see yourself today, now and you realize you have already STOP NOW, what will you feel like, knowing you just STOPPED, will you fell happy or energized?". Past, and future tensing seem to set the subconscious on fire and I have had two clients come back as non smokers before session 2!
I have a booklet for them with the basics of handling any cessation challenges and a contract to themselves, that says they are committed to being free. All the materials are positive, they don't have to, they get to, it all emphasizes freedom and breaking the chains of slavery. It also discusses their addiction, I don't emphasis it in discussion, but every person has commented on the realization that they are an addict. I set up an appointment for 1 week later and send them home with the homework of their contract and replacing their cigarettes with the worst brand they have ever tasted from that moment on.
Session 2, At this session I give them a set of beads, with 21 beads, representing the 21 days of healing and mention that every bead will become a realization about being smoke free. I tell them to act the same way they d now, if they go out at 10am and smoke, they go out at 10am and do one breathing exercise for each bead. This replaces the physical manifestation of smoking and I reinforce it in the hypnosis: This session works on the divided path imagery, get them into hypnosis in your way, I use progressive relaxation, because it is the replacement for their smoking stress release habit. I teach them belly breathing as a beginning of the hypnosis and attach that to the beads in future pacing. They are first guided down the dark path, going into the dark scary foreboding path to the left one step is 6 months in the future, remind them of the negatives they fed you in session 1, see the wrinkles, stuff like that. Step 2 is 1 year, show them their smoking friends, using them as an excuse to continue and more fears realized and the 3rd step is 5 years, have them experience the fruition of their fears, death disease and loss. From their do a visual squash with the pack of cigarettes in their left hand and the disgusting thing they told you about in the right. Now have them step back the 3 steps and experience a wall growing across the path, make it a combination of unpleasant VAK sensations and have them wipe the squash leftovers on it. Now, go up the “right” path, the sunny, happy path and follow the same process for the positive, they are feeling “what ever is the opposite of their fears”, they are discovering wonderful new ways to manage “whatever they used cigarettes for” and at 5 years, have them look back and do a temporal scramble, using phrases like “it was a terrible problem you had long age wasn’t it” and You want to change haven’t you” again, scrambling tenses and timelining the experience. Then bring them back to their first cigarette and have them give the beginning smoker all the experiences and knowledge they have and all the memories of the left path future pace. They will decide right then to stop, bring that decision to now and say “it seems like a dream that you ever smoked, I wonder if you decided then to be a non smoker now, forever, if it means you were from that point on, I like to wonder, I think it’s wonderful, don’t you think it is wonderful always have been free? From this point I remind them of the beads, plant a post hypnotic to use them often and to listen to the audio I provide every day for the next week and bring them out.
All the rest of the sessions are dealing with unconscious responses to stopping. I have had people who masked their panic attacks with smoking and dealt with the death of children, it’s all freeform from there.
My 8 month success ratio is 100% since I adopted this and the $300 regardless of visits policy. My average client visits 3 times, I have one 7 timer and a few 1 and 2 visit clients, so it works out as a wash and the referrals are great, because everyone thinks they are a tough smoking case.
Hope this helps, PM me if you need anything
Jeff