Script ofr pain due to Leg being removed

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Comment by Dan Cleary on January 13, 2012 at 8:18am

Wayne:

Your client has the best script for him, listen to what he says and modify the limitations.

It is easy for people who are not in pain to say how bad meds are: all we have are resources, how we use our resources is what we do.

Sure if you learn to eliminate the painful signals completely, for all time, then pain is not an issue. However we can also learn to make medications more powerful (turn Tylenol into Demerol) target only to the area we choose, learn to replicate the effects in our mind, speed up or slow down the actions, etc.

Don't add an Either/Or situation to their life, by suggesting that they stop taking their medications, remind them of options.

Besides, unless you are a doctor you can't suggest any change in their medications. When they get relief you WANT them to speak with their doctor: it creates a good referral system.

 

To begin a session I usually ask clients to describe their EXPERIENCE rather than the diagnosis.

In asking for the description of the experience we are already dissociating and I can listen for their language cues to HOW they perceive their life events and how we can make changes.

When I have a very general understanding of their experience, I tell them that

"We'll get to that in a little while, but first let's play with your imagination so we can find ways to make yourself more comfortable. Now imagine..."and go off into your favorite induction and perhaps introduce a Safe Place or a Place of resource, etc.

This puts the 'challenge' on the schedule but later, which takes you past the Pass/Fail of immediately addressing the issue. Remember that whatever approaches they have used in the past... didn't work or they wouldn't be there.(Either they still had pain or the side effects/costs of relief outweighed the benefits)

When they begin to experience the trance state and play with their imagination, most will get a significant reduction of the painful signals and then you can teach them to access the state on their own free of the challenge, because they have experienced improvement.

I address this and more in my new book, Targeting Pain, A Practitioners Guide to Relief. Check my Website. You will also find direct email and phone contact information if you'd like to connect.

Dan

Comment by Kevin Cole-NLPTrainingQuest.com on January 12, 2012 at 11:26pm

"Dr's are now telling him to live with the pain and take meds."

 

Grrrr... Yes, search the site for phantom limb pain. It is very reversible. Of course work WITH your client's doctors, but don't allow him to think his only choice is to live with the pain and take med's. As you know, it's not... Very far from it...

 

If you don't find what you are looking for- and or would like further guidance, Contact me offline and we can set up a phone call on how to help your client feel a lot better. Depending on your client and your current experience, there are many different approaches that you can take.

This should get you started immediately- and anyone can do it (although there's most probably some other variables to address)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL_6OMPywnQ

 

-Kevin

Comment by Seth-Deborah Roth on January 11, 2012 at 6:26pm

Hi Wayne,

I speak at a group called "Stumps R Us" and I would like to share some information specific to phantom limb.

Interestingly, just recently, I was talking to an anesthesiologist sharing with him my noticing that people who had the amputations done under regional vs. general seemed to have less phantom limb. He told me that there were studies showing just that.

With my clients, besides the normal pain management skills and stress management and teaching the brain to ignore the signals over time, I especially  work with nerve memory, and especially resolving the loss of the limb subconsciously speaking. The phantom limb patients really do need the resolution of the loss of limb and the nerve memory. I also recommend the investigation into the use of "mirror box therapy". This is proven to really help!

Hope this helps,

Seth-Deborah

Comment by Kelley Woods on January 11, 2012 at 7:30am

You may want to search pain discussions in general, Wayne. I imagine this client would benefit in being educated about how he can change his mind about the discomfort and all of the attached emotional charges related to his condition.

There are numerous ways you can help facilitate this and giving a trance session for relaxation and letting go is wonderful; it doesn't even have to address the pain per se! Once that wicked loop of the chronic pain signal and its accompanying suffering is frayed, the unraveling can continue...

Comment by Scott Sandland on January 11, 2012 at 7:14am

Search this site for "phantom limb pain" and you should get some good answers.

-Scott