The END of stage hypnosis.....

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Permalink Reply by Amanda Irvine on August 14, 2008 at 9:23pm

Stage shows are about entertainment.... Subject (ones such as myself) enjoy voluntering because it allows thier true self to come out without worries.... As long as people watch T.V. go to movies, or concerts stage hypnosis will LIVE ON!

and the misconception that hypnotherary is slower than therapy is that a misconception...
Sounds to me like they are trying to will hypnosis out of existance.... Sounds like some bad blood somewhere, and well if people actually believe what they read (espeicially in the news) Send them my way I have a whole country for sale....

No way will stage hypnosis die....
Amanda

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Permalink Reply by Leo Gopal - www.LeoGopal.com on August 15, 2008 at 4:37am

On the Story: think its totally NOT cool

Is stage hypnosis over: As long as there are youngsters like me around and dead set on doing what we want, stage hypno included, and as like as people can be hypnotized (which is always) then as Amanda Said, STAGE HYPNOSIS WILL LIVE ON!!!

Is hypnotherapy as slow as other forms of therapy: with all the knowledge and PROOF out there, i would think its not, and anyone who thinks or says it is, is either illiterate or trying to tell a really bad joke...

Leo'

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Permalink Reply by Joshua on August 15, 2008 at 6:04am

Hey Richard,

As a NGH Member I'm a little shocked at this article. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong Richard, but most of owe Stage Hypnotists. Most of the techniques we used we're invented or kept alive due to stage hypnotists. Many of the greats we're involved in stage hypnosis such as Kein, Aarons, and many others. If you think about it, now, most of us got interested in hypnosis from seeing a stage show or watching one on TV.

So if they believe in phasing out stage hypnosis does this mean members such as Tommy Vee and Jerry Valley won't be able to be part of the guild and practice hypnosis. Or could this be a play so that only ngh could practice stage hypnosis one day? I mean the guild has a stage show at it's convention so it seems sort of strange to make those comments.

Could these quotes be taken out of content, possible, it's not like the news has ever lied or misquoted to create a story. Still I think that this article is pretty solid and it's sad to me that someone would think Stage Hypnosis would be phased out. In business we learn about something called Supply and Demand. We'll I don't think my friend Richard, John, Rich Wilson, or Dr. H would be working if people we're not buying tickets for their shows.

Did I think that stage hypnotists cause misconceptions today. No, I don't actually. To be honest most of the stage shows I have visited the Hypnotists will do a pre-talk and explain that hypnosis isn't mind control and let people know its entertainment. So I think the misconception is just a idea belief sort of passed down. Does every stage hypnotists give a pre-talk, no, of course not, but that number is few and between.

I love stage hypnosis and might even like to get into eventually myself. I mean $500-$1200 a night isn't bad money where i'm from, but you can reach more people than you ever could normally. I understand that the guild is trying to have hypnotism looked at as a serious profession. I'm all for that as a man with a business background. Still, comments like this do nothing but cause conflict. Something we have had for a long time. I believe the only way stage hypnosis could ever be phased out would be because of laws passed. I'm pretty sure too that stage shows would still go on in some underground stage hypnosis club lol.

Personally I have talked to many licensed professionals who I have worked with and they constantly tell me that it is because of hypnosis that their patients have had a fast recovery. Most of them, as I agree that hypnosis works best when combined with other treatments from their health care professional. I have talked to people who have been seeing a licensed professional for over two years just to deal with simple fears, which hypnosis could have helped with within a couple sessions. I have a feeling this article is about to be passed along the blog network between hypnotists. I am still shocked at this article and thank Richard for bringing this to my attention as well as others. I will have to keep a eye on this myself.

Hmmmm.....Maybe we need a National Guild of Stage Hypnotists to step up to the scene?

Joshua Houghton
www.whatsonmybrain.com
www.trancedout.com/forum

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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on August 15, 2008 at 7:49am

Stage hypnosis kept interest in hypnotism alive after Freud almost killed the art during his lifetime.

There may be a few states that try to curtail stage hypnotism because of some controversial shows; but a clean stage hypnosis show can both entertain and educate people at the same time. Although I've seen some shows that in my personal opinion are a disgrace to our profession, I've also seen some that provide excellent entertainment in a manner that promotes hypnotism.

Although I do not personally practice stage hypnosis, I believe that there is a place for this form of entertainment, and it would be a tragedy for our profession if it ever became outlawed. In other words, education is better than legislation. Let's not try to punish all stage hypnotists just because a few do controversial demonstrations. We already have too much Big Brother in the world.

Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
www.royhunter.com

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on August 15, 2008 at 11:35am

Hi Richard,

This is why I have many clients over the sea especially from Israel, since in Israel only a physician can practice hypnosis not someone who have certifications or even a diploma, they need more, then just that.
In my personal opinion, I think Mr. Damon (Dwight Damon) wants to believes that eventually hypnosis stage shows will be phased out. After all they have degree of a doctorate and we are the one who truly help clients with most fastest affective way when it comes to illness, anxiety, stress, motivation and the list goes on and on and on.....
and stage hypnosis is purely entertainment... and as far as I am concern it is up to the volunteers to keep it going...

The way I see it is just posturing for the press, hoping we will be stopped.. you know like any other good thing in the market, as soon it starts booming, someone comes with a virus, or a warning.. trying to take it out of the counter, sometimes they do succeed, and sometimes they don't.?
So I will happily argue that hypnosis is the fastest affective approach without any side affects.

I love this forum, Thank you Scott :)
Best Regards, Doreen

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Permalink Reply by Geoff Ronning - www.StageHypnosisCenter.com on August 15, 2008 at 12:09pm

Richard,

Funny post.

So lets see... Damen believes they are phasing out stage hypnosis? I guess I just have a few questions about the NGH Convention last week:

* What were the most popular programs at the Convention?

* How many stage hypnosis shows did they have?

* How many people attended those shows?

* How many stage hypnosis lectures did they do?

* How many extra cost stage hypnosis events did they have?

Phased out.... huh... :)

Geoff Ronning

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Permalink Reply by Lee Darrow on August 15, 2008 at 12:24pm

In my personal conversations with Dr. Damon (he's a chiropractic physician), this is not what he said to me. Shaun Brookhouse, who seems to be finagling for the title "heir apparent" to the ownership of the Guild (yes, it is a private corporation, from what I have been able to discern) has been anti-stage hypnosis for some time.

To be honest, Shaun, like many other anti-stage hypnotists, is overlooking the 800lb gorilla in the room - without stage hypnotists, therapeutic hypnosis would have died out over a century ago for lack of pursuit by the academic and medical communities, not to mention a lack of interest by the PUBLIC!

In a recent poll on another board, over 60% of the respondents stated that they had first developed their interest in hypnosis from either a stage show on TV, real life or from seeing something in a movie.

If we lose that "feeder stream" from the public, we will not be in business in twenty years.

So, I would suggest to Mr. Brookhouse that he bandage that bullet wound in his foot, get with the times and support ethical and compassionate stage hypnosis, instead.

Lee Darrow, C.H.
www.stagehypnosissafetyclass.com

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Permalink Reply by Joshua on August 15, 2008 at 12:44pm

I could haven't said it any better Lee. I also agree with Geoff. The guild supports the event yet they don't support stage hypnosis, funny.

Josh

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - HypnosisGurus.com on August 15, 2008 at 12:46pm

When I wonder why anything is the way it is, I always say, "Follow the money trail"

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Permalink Reply by don Rey Martinez on August 15, 2008 at 1:34pm

Who in this forum does not agree that your own comments, as a hypnotherapist, about people that just got exposed to a stage show sound like this:
“people believe that hypnosis will be quicker than other forms of therapy because of its ‘magical’ quality and it creates natural misconceptions.”
or
"people think it's all fake, that it's just a game."
While it is quicker, and it does have a magical quality it does create misconceptions. How many stage hypnotists take the time to explain and educate the public about hypnotherapy.
If people go to a hypnotherapist after watching a stage show they expect to be put to sleep and change whatever problem they may have in one session. yes, as hypnotherapist you are trained to separate stage hypnosis from hypnotherapy and most of the time you succeed but many leave to never come back because you were not convincing enough and they keep searching for the true hypnotist that will put them under a spell and solve their problems instantly.
I always remind any stage hypnotist I train or meet about their responsibility to educate their public about hypnotherapy. That's their opportunity to some day end misconceptions about our art.
Rey Martinez
www.elrey.tk

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Permalink Reply by bruce on August 15, 2008 at 10:29pm

Yes, I agree with you Don Rey,

The metaphor I come across a lot of the time is "programming," or "reprogramming." It's a similar idea to magical quality that you are talking about. There is a sense of self-brutality in these ideas; as if the person were treating themselves as an object, or more accurately, a computer.

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Permalink Reply by Lee Darrow on August 17, 2008 at 7:15pm

Meier Yedid is alive and well, I see. That's nothing but a variation on his Arm Twister trick, done with an entranced person. While it's a great presentation idea, it's. in my professional opinion as both a magician and a hypnotist, not only misleading but nearly fraudulent in the way it seems to present hypnosis as being able to do something that it cannot - violate the laws of the human physique.

Maybe we DO need a specific group for the Advancement of Ethical Stage Hypnosis.

Lee Darrow, C.H.

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